Comments on: Kristi Winters on the Historical Jesus: Part 1 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13216 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:29:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: John MacDonald https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13216#comment-25299 Sat, 07 Oct 2017 22:54:21 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13216#comment-25299 In reply to Richard Carrier.

One question I’d like to ask Dr. McGrath: What (for Paul) was it about Jesus’ blood that was so special and so powerful that spilling it created a blood magic spell that actually nullified the temple cult?

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By: Robert Tulip https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13216#comment-25283 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 23:36:55 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13216#comment-25283 Richard, this is a chance to query a line from OHJ. You say here “Paul and the earliest Christians believed Jesus did indeed exist…in outer space.” Your phrase ‘outer space’ looks an anachronism, which I think incorrectly spatialises and mocks the myth. If you look at analogous Greek myths of Hercules and Andromeda seen in constellations in the sky, their position is as two dimensional star groups, as visual depictions, not as three dimensional beings in outer space.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13216#comment-25282 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:37:18 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13216#comment-25282 In reply to John MacDonald.

That’s hilarious. Note this line: “I won’t attempt to revisit the topic of the Philippians hymn here in detail, since even whole books have a hard time doing justice to the depth and extent of the subject.” So. He won’t revisit the one passage that has Paul explicitly state that Jesus was a pre-existent superbeing who chose to descend into flesh. And then claim Paul never explicitly says that. McGrath is such a talented liar.

He also conveniently “forgets” to even mention 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Romans 8:3; doesn’t address the arguments Ehrman makes against everything McGrath says—neglecting even to mention that he already did so, and did so in the very book McGrath claims to be reviewing; and engages in other dubious argumentation besides. What a card.

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By: John MacDonald https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13216#comment-25279 Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:35:04 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=13216#comment-25279 In the following blog post, James McGrath posted some critical thoughts challenging Ehrman’s claim in “How Jesus Became God” that Jesus, in Paul’s letters, was considered a pre-existent divine Being: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/2014/11/thoughts-on-bart-ehrmans-how-jesus-became-god-sblaar14.html

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