It might be difficult because the connection failed a lot resulting in broken and unclear communications.

I’ll put a call out to have a transcript made though (of this and the next one). I think Reality Revolutions would be interested in making one. I’ll ask.

We’ll definitely do a 2.0! It’s in the planning.

I’m skeptical of the “never before” argument though. There isn’t anything in Christianity that isn’t somewhere already around it (Qumran, other fringe sects of Jews like the Therapeutae and the Essenes, the Hillelites, even some mainstream Prophets; and in adjacent cultures: Cynic philosophy and Egyptian wisdom texts, etc.). And some of the most radical teachings, mainstream scholars agree are post-War and can’t come from Jesus (e.g. the Sermon on the Mount). MacDonald must surely be bucking against the latest conclusions in the field on that, e.g. see my quotations and citations of Dale Allison’s work on the Sermon in OHJ. I aim to bring this up next time.

Grant that “The Logoi of Jesus” isn’t a figment of the imagination, when Papias writes this up he admits to getting it second or third hand, and we can see now (as MacDonald says himself) it’s attribution is legendary. The material still goes Pfft! for the same reasons the Gospels themselves go Pfft! I think.

Christianity has a wonderful, coherent, ethic never before expressed – never before expressed in Judaism yet? That is what he, Dennis, was arguing, the audio wasn’t breaking up that badly. The mind boggles.

Yes! So sorry. Typo. It’s supposed to say 23rd. Fixed.

Yes! So sorry. Typo. It’s supposed to say 23rd. Fixed.