Comments on: The Bible Actually Permits Abortion and Condemns Homosexuality https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Tue, 26 Nov 2024 00:11:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-39549 Tue, 26 Nov 2024 00:11:14 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-39549 In reply to MarcusP.

I’m not sure I understand your question. Surely you read the sentence you are referring to? (“…in Greek the malakoi did not refer to gay men but “soft, cowardly, morally weak” people of any gender, i.e. not the effeminate but the profligate)

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By: MarcusP https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-39540 Sun, 24 Nov 2024 01:09:00 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-39540 In reply to Richard Carrier.

You wrote “Paul already listed gay men, so he would not list them twice.” Did you mean that he already listed gay men by using arsenokoitai ? So if he already listed them by using arsenokoitai he wouldn’t have listed gay men twice by using malakoi. That’s what you were saying more exactly ?

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-36975 Wed, 20 Dec 2023 14:44:39 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-36975 In reply to CP 9.

That’s a great article. Thank you for calling our attention to it!

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By: CP 9 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-36972 Wed, 20 Dec 2023 13:57:09 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-36972 I think i found a good article that somewhat agrees with your position. It’s called
“Where’s the Body?: Victimhood as the Wrongmaker
in Abortion” – https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10516-022-09650-2

Hopefully this helps somebody. It was a bit hard to find other good articles, even though i know they are out there.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-35196 Fri, 11 Nov 2022 16:12:16 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-35196 In reply to CP 9.

If you find good examples, please post them here. I can then give the next guy or gal asking this question a more useful answer.

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By: CP 9 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-35194 Thu, 10 Nov 2022 07:29:02 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-35194 In reply to Richard Carrier.

Thanks, I’ll try and check some of those out

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-35149 Mon, 07 Nov 2022 17:48:47 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-35149 In reply to CP 9.

It’s been too long since I looked into that. The violinist argument has gained more popularity in the literature, but arguments against it (but that still advocate pro-choice) likely do take the personhood position, so you might try that keyword. But there is too much in the literature now for me to vet it all. See my search on Google Scholar for example. Somewhere in those 46,000 articles is likely stuff on par with my position.

But frankly, if you want the seminal philosophical argument on point, it’s literally Roe v. Wade.

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By: CP 9 https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-35146 Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:18:28 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-35146 Hi, Dr. Carrier. On the topic of abortion (similar to my question a long time ago about euthanasia) I was wondering if you knew about or could recommend some good articles/papers/books that defend your position on abortion (or something similar to your position). I was looking on the Philpapers website and couldn’t find much.

And to be clear, I’m looking for defences of the pro-choice position on the basis of personhood, preferably your model of personhood. I’m asking because your recommendations last time were really helpful.

Thanks

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By: Drew Trox https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-34667 Fri, 24 Jun 2022 16:33:48 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-34667 In reply to Richard Carrier.

This article is now so much more important. Thank you Dr. Carrier!

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17319#comment-32379 Sat, 15 May 2021 00:56:40 +0000 https://www.richardcarrier.info/?p=17319#comment-32379 In reply to Sam Newman.

That’s bogus. It uses a standard equivocation fallacy to switch between “human cell” and “human person” to produce its results. Which is a violation of logic. Typical irrational antiabortion propaganda.

If you were taken in by that, you need to fix your epistemology, because it’s broken.

If you are actually serious (and not a dishonest troll) I recommend you read a real debate about abortion, not vacuous rhetoric: The Carrier-Roth Abortion Debate.

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