Comments on: Dawkins Takes a Positive Step https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154 Announcing appearances, publications, and analysis of questions historical, philosophical, and political by author, philosopher, and historian Richard Carrier. Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:07:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16323 Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:07:37 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16323 But then he takes a small step back in the right direction: by repudiating his own Dear Muslima remark.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16322 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:35:14 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16322 In reply to Niall O.

Slightly back down now, given his now implying all criticism of him is just as bad as rape threats, and totes just like being killed or imprisoned or having your free speech rights suppressed by the state.

Dawkins is practically a parody of himself at this point.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16321 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:32:29 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16321 In reply to Ophelia Benson.

Thank you. I have added that to clarify. I had meant “the whole scoop” link to inform people of that. But I can see some might not follow it.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16320 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:17:54 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16320 In reply to kellym.

Yeah, but that’s actually just more of the usual (Alex Gabriel nails this point, amusingly). So that doesn’t move my opinion marker. That he does those boneheaded things is already a factor in my estimation of him.

What’s more alarming is his now implying all criticism of him is a Witch Hunt and Thought Policing and just as bad (!) as threatening people with rape.

Facepalm.

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16319 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:34:03 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16319 In reply to Steven Carr.

Sure. But now people can’t honestly claim that criticizing Dawkins’s dumb tweets (or his irrational blacklisting of Watson) is “the same thing” as the harassment and abuse and belittling garbage he just denounced. Because basically Dawkins just said so.

Criticism is fine. But that shit isn’t legitimate criticism. It’s bullying and childishness. The bullies and children had until now been claiming Dawkins was on their side. Now they can no longer claim that. He’s very definitely against them.

(On this matter.)

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16318 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:28:22 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16318 In reply to Skep tickle.

Right.

(I have left this thread up in case anyone else was confused and didn’t get that far on their own.)

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By: Richard Carrier https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16317 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:26:42 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16317 In reply to Skep tickle.

Oh no, that was deliberate. My link to Gabriel wasn’t about the Dawkins statement (I linked to Christina for that); it’s about the context of the behaviors the statement addresses.

(Yes, amazingly, there are still people who don’t know that. Like Dawkins himself, apparently. Until recently.)

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By: Niall O https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16316 Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:45:24 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16316 How’s that opinion marker swinging today?

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By: Ophelia Benson https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16315 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:18:44 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16315 It was a joint statement. Richard Dawkins and I issued it simultaneously on our respective blogs (at his suggestion).

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By: kellym https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/6154#comment-16314 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:16:39 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/?p=6154#comment-16314 …followed immediately by a negative step. ow.ly/zHUFK

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