Years ago I wrote on how ‘natural’ and ‘supernatural’ should be defined based on how those words are actually used in practice. And I developed from that a more useful ontology of naturalism and the supernatural, and a more apt scientific epistemology capable of detecting either. This began all the way back in 2003 with an actual mini-poll of philosophers and scientists (in a section titled “A Brief Ethnography of Contemporary Naturalism”), which contributed substantially to formulating and defending naturalism as a worldview in my first book Sense and Goodness without God, and led eventually to my magnum opus on the question in 2007: Defining the Supernatural, which I wrote in reaction to some poor philosophy on this point improperly influencing Dover v. Kitzmiller (pp. 64–70).
A summary of that article’s thesis was then formally published as “On Defining Naturalism as a Worldview” in Free Inquiry 30.3 (April/May 2010, pp. 50–51) while my book’s treatment of the subject was formally cited and employed by Yonatan Fishman in “Can Science Test Supernatural Worldviews?” in Science & Education 18 (2009), pp. 813–37. Which has since been cited over 90 times in the literature. And now it has come to my attention that my 2007 piece was cited and employed—and improved upon—by Stephen Maitzen in “The Problem of Magic” in the anthology Does God Matter? (Routledge 2017), edited by Klaas Kraay and whose contributors include several major philosophers in the field. I’ve long wanted to relocate and update my 2007 article from my old blog to here, and Maitzen’s contribution provides an ideal occasion to.
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There is a trend in science and law to define the word “supernatural” as “the untestable,” which is perhaps understandable for its practicality, but deeply flawed as both philosophy and social policy (see Excluding the Supernatural by Eliezer Yudkowsky). It’s flawed as philosophy, because testability is not even a metaphysical distinction, but an epistemological one, and yet in the real world everyone uses the word “supernatural” to make metaphysical distinctions. And it’s flawed as social policy, because the more that judges and scientists separate themselves from the general public with deviant language, the less support they will find from that quarter. And the legal and scientific communities as we know them will crumble if they lose the support of the people. Science and the courts must serve humankind. And to do that, they must at least try to speak their language. And yet already a rising tide of hostility against both science and the courts is evident. Making it worse is not the solution.
I argued in Sense and Goodness without God (pp. 29-35) that philosophy is wasting its time if its definitions of words do not track what people really mean when they use them (see my more recent discussion in My Monthly Recommendation: Ayer and Polanyi). And when we look at the real world, we find the supernatural is universally meant and understood to mean something metaphysically different from the natural. I could adduce many examples of the bad fit between real language and this ill-advised attempt at an “official” definition, but here are just two:
- The underlying mechanics of quantum phenomena might be physically beyond all observation and therefore untestable, but no one would then conclude that quantum mechanics is supernatural. Just because I can’t look inside a box does not make its contents supernatural.
Conversely:
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- If I suddenly acquired the Force of the Jedi and could predict the future, control minds, move objects and defy the laws of physics, all merely by an act of will, ordinary people everywhere would call this a supernatural power. Yet it would be entirely testable. Scientists could record and measure the nature and extent of my powers and confirm them well within the requirements of peer review.
Consequently, we need a proper definition of “supernatural” (and, therefore, of the word “natural” as well), one that tracks what people really mean when they use the word, one that marks a metaphysical distinction, and allows us to say when the word is being used sloppily or improperly, as must be the case for any word we intend to be useful. This is all the more crucial for philosophical naturalists, who must define their worldview in some manner that actually makes it meaningfully different from supernaturalist worldviews. Critics of naturalism are entirely correct about this.
I defined “nature” in Sense and Goodness without God (on pp. 211-12, with a little help from points I made on pp. 67-69). Which cited and summarized the point I explained in more elaborate detail, with considerable supporting evidence, in my Secular Web article Defending Naturalism as a Worldview (2003). I then defined the natural-supernatural distinction more rigorously in the joint statement of the Carrier-Wanchick Debate (2006). But in short, I find “naturalism” means, in the simplest terms, that every mental thing is entirely caused by fundamentally nonmental things, and is entirely dependent on nonmental things for its existence. Therefore, “supernaturalism” means that at least some mental things cannot be reduced to nonmental things.
In other words, if naturalism is true, then all minds, and all the contents and powers and effects of minds, are entirely caused by natural (which means fundamentally nonmental) phenomena. But if naturalism is false, then some minds, or some of the contents or powers or effects of minds, are causally independent of nature. In other words, such things would then be partly or wholly caused by themselves, or exist or operate directly or fundamentally on their own. Yet some have difficulties understanding how to apply my construction of these terms, so I thought I’d have some extended fun. Analogies and concrete examples always do a better job getting across to people what we’re talking about, so that’s what I’m going to do today.
With a bit of fantasy, I’ll show how my natural-supernatural distinction can be used to tell the difference between a natural and a supernatural explanation (a metaphysical question), and how we can know when one or the other actually is true (an epistemological question). I take a look at supernatural beings, substances, powers, properties, and effects, and we’ll get to see what natural explanations of similar observations would look like, and how they would be different. But this time I will reference Maitzen’s improved formulation of my demarcation principle. Which works like this:
Any informative definition of “naturalism” is likely to be contentious (see Williamson 2011a [and] 2011b), but according to one promising definition, naturalism asserts “in the simplest terms, that every mental thing is entirely caused by fundamentally nonmental things and is entirely dependent on nonmental things for its existence” (Carrier 2007). While this definition is fine as far as it goes, it rests on a distinction between the mental and the nonmental, a distinction that’s roughly as contentious as the definition of “naturalism” itself, to say nothing of the definition of “caused by,” another concept it invokes. Therefore, I propose to define “naturalism” in a way that avoids those controversies by invoking a concept that I think we understand at least as well as, and probably better than, the distinction between the mental and the nonmental or the concept of causation: to wit, the concept of a purpose. As I construe it, naturalism is the view that purposes aren’t fundamental: every being, action, or whatever, that has a purpose (a goal, a telos) arises from things that have no purpose (…a purpose is realized in or constituted by one or more things lacking any purpose…). In a phrase, “Purposes don’t go all the way down.”
This is, indeed, essentially what I always meant (as you’ll see from my ensuing examples, even in the form Maitzen was working from). So Maitzen has hit upon the essential element of it: irreducible intentionality.
In technical philosophical parlance “intentionality” most often refers to what thoughts are “about,” which neuroscience has reduced to physics (see What About Intentionality?). But the fact that it reduces to physics means that even that form of intentionality reduces to nonintentional “parts” (a computational system, the sum operations of which realize intentionality, but no single part of which can). We can extend this to all intentional objects in Maitzen’s view: any manifestation of plans, desires, or intelligent (i.e. knowledge-evincing) choices. As Yudkowsky framed it, if water flowed down hill literally and only because it wanted to (the water’s desire to move or be down there simply causing its motion), then we would have an irreducible intention, and hence what Maitzen means by a “purpose” as a fundamental cause. That would be supernatural water. By contrast, this condition is not realized if the motion-causing desire is itself a reducible (and thus not a fundamental) cause. For example if that water were really a programmable nanorobot solution, and so a “desire to move” really was causing it to, that desire would be entirely reducible to a complex computational machine (however Dysonian and microscopic it may be). In that case desire (the “purpose” or “intention”) is entirely reducible to nonintentional causes, and we’d have a natural phenomenon again, not a supernatural one.
To understand the application of this, we need to get past one other important distinction: the meaning of paranormal.
Defining the Paranormal
I don’t know if the public has been as consistent, but I maintain a distinction between the paranormal and the supernatural. In my parlance, a paranormal phenomenon or explanation can be either natural or supernatural. What makes something paranormal is the fact that it exists outside the domain of currently plausible science. As such, it could just be a natural phenomenon we don’t yet understand or haven’t yet seen. But it could also be something supernatural. Or, of course, it can be an entirely bogus claim. We won’t know until we have enough evidence to make a determination (see, for example, UFOs Are Not That Remarkable). But either way, the category of “paranormal” can be applied to “phenomena” (hence the mere claim that something happens or exists can be paranormal) as well as explanations of that phenomena, i.e. paranormal hypotheses.
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Typical example: alien abductions. There is no scientific evidence this happens, nor any scientific evidence that it’s even plausible to suppose it happens. There is even, now, scientific and historical evidence that the phenomena offered as evidence of alien abductions are actually nothing of the kind. Back in the middle ages it was faerie and demon abductions. The monsters abducting us curiously change appearance, equipment, and tactics with the times. But even if we didn’t have evidence confirming, for example, hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucination, the claim that aliens abduct people remains outside the realm of scientific plausibility.
But that alone doesn’t mean it’s scientifically impossible or inexplicable or even false. It’s just paranormal. If we gathered enough scientific evidence to confirm it was true that aliens really were snatching people, then it would cease to be paranormal. It would then enter the realm of normal scientific fact. Moreover, the fact that extraterrestrials were abducting people—using ordinary, though highly advanced technologies—would not be supernatural. It would be an entirely natural phenomenon, as natural as the CIA abducting people off the street and flying them off to faraway lands (which has literally happened).
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On the other hand, some Christians have proposed that these abductions really do happen, but the abductors are not really aliens but demons from Hell flying magic Satanic saucers, working their evil mischief on earth by snagging and buggering the locals (see Close Encounters: A Better Explanation). This would be a supernatural explanation of the same phenomena. Thus, a paranormal explanation can amount to a natural or a supernatural claim, depending on what kind of metaphysical entities are evoked. That something is paranormal is therefore a separate distinction from whether it is natural or supernatural.
Another example: David Hume listed “fire burning under water” among the things he regarded as impossible and therefore unbelievable, owing to vast human testimony to the contrary. If someone told Hume, “Hey, I saw some wizards in Spain carrying torches to light their way in underwater caverns!” Hume would say, “Poppycock!” For this would be, for him, a paranormal claim, beyond the bounds of what was then scientifically plausible.
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But Hume wasn’t entirely dogmatic about this. Hume himself used the example of water turning into a white powder when cold: someone from a region where temperatures were always high would rightly regard “snow” to be a paranormal phenomenon. Until, that is, they were presented with adequate evidence to warrant believing it really does happen: water really does turn to white powder when sufficiently cold (at least, if you whisk a lot of air into it as it freezes, otherwise it turns into a glassy rock, which would sound even weirder to someone who’d never seen this). So Hume granted that, with sufficient evidence, the once-paranormal can become a normal fact: a desert native can come to a reasonable belief in snow and ice.
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The same would then follow for the Spanish wizards. It turns out fire does burn under water. You just need the right chemicals or equipment. Napalm burns under water because it chemically contains its own oxygen. Magnesium flares burn under water by actually breaking the molecular bonds of water and consuming the oxygen released. The Olympic Torch was carried under water by using a welding apparatus that supplied fuel and oxygen under high pressures. And, of course, there are always flashlights, arc welders, glowsticks, volcanic magmas, and so on.
Regardless of what Hume may have written, if Hume saw these wizards himself, or heard reports from several eye-witnesses whom he trusted, whose trustworthiness in every relevant respect was abundantly supported by evidence available to Hume, then the phenomenon of underwater fire would no longer be paranormal. But any proposed explanation would still be paranormal, if it wasn’t based on plausible science.
“Some unknown chemical reaction is occurring” would not be a paranormal hypothesis, because even in Hume’s day there was a good grounding in established science to make that kind of hypothesis plausible. But “the wizards impregnate the wood with the element of fire” would be a paranormal hypothesis even in Hume’s day, because there is and was no properly scientific basis for such a claim. However, if it turned out to be true, and fire really was an irreducible element that could be absorbed into a stick, that would be a paranormal but still natural explanation—until scientifically proved, or grounded in supported science, the way “chemical reaction” explanations now are. Then even this bizarre claim would no longer be paranormal or supernatural. On the other hand, “the wizards cast a spell on the sticks” would be a hypothesis both paranormal and supernatural. And if that theory were scientifically proved, though it would cease to be paranormal, it would remain supernatural.
The same thing could be said about ESP or crystal healing or Bigfoot and so on. These are definitely paranormal claims, at least at present (there is no scientific reason to consider them plausible). But each could still be explained either naturally or supernaturally. For example, ESP could be a natural phenomenon of human brains producing and transceiving radio waves; or it could be a supernatural power that doesn’t involve any such mechanism. Crystal healing could be the operation of unknown physics or chemistry; or it could be a supernatural power. Bigfoot could just be a rare but perfectly natural species of hominid; or the supernatural victim of an evil sorcerer’s spell. Confirming the existence of any of these phenomena would remove it from the category of the paranormal (“ESP exists,” “crystal healing works,” “there is a Bigfoot”), but how one still chose to explain it would still be paranormal if you appealed to concepts that are currently groundless or scientifically implausible. And yet even a supernatural explanation would cease to be paranormal if it was scientifically confirmed.
So the question is: what really is the underlying difference between a natural and a supernatural explanation? What follows now presupposes all I’ve said above.
Supernatural Beings
Let’s start with supernatural beings. You know, like God. Or gods. Or demons, angels, faeries, or ghosts. Or invisible pink unicorns or flying spaghetti monsters. You get the picture. These are all supernatural if they have any mental property or power that is not reducible to a nonmental mechanism (or in other words, if any part of them is irreducibly intentional). If, however, all of their powers and properties can be reduced to nonmental mechanisms, then they are not supernatural beings after all, but natural ones.
In the most obvious case, the God of traditional theism is a pure mind, composed of nothing else but mental powers and concepts—a whole slew of irreducibly intentional attributes. That is indisputably supernatural. So is the ability to cause things to happen in the universe merely by willing them to happen, since that means there is no nonmental mechanism (like arms and nervous systems or graviton rays) mediating between the act of will and its realization. Such direct mental causation is certainly supernatural, as then not only is the purpose formed without machinery (God’s mind is bodiless), but the intended “purpose” is also carried out directly, hence irreducibly, and not by some mechanism none of whose parts thinks about anything. If thought directly becomes action, it’s supernatural. But if a thought is formed by a machine (if The Mind Is a Process Not an Object) and that thought also has to be translated into action by a system of components each of which is devoid of thought, then it’s not supernatural (hence, on current physics, AI will never be a “god” in a supernatural sense, as in Will AI Be Our Moses?).
And so on. Of course, just because you “see” God does not entail the God you are seeing is disembodied, or omniscient, or omnipresent, or omnipotent, or anything else supernatural. You would need additional evidence to confirm any or each of those attributes. Hence it’s possible to find evidence that the God you just saw is not supernatural after all, but some sort of natural being, pretending to be supernatural.
The Stoic and Epicurean Gods
How would a natural God be different from a supernatural God? Well, he would have a body of some kind, and all his thoughts would be the product of a machine of some sort, like a brain, and he would only be able to realize his will by initiating a chain of causes-and-effects that is entirely reducible to nonmental events—meaning purposeless, nonintentional events. A hypothetical analogy would be the God proposed by various Stoic theologians of the Roman era. The Stoics were not always clear or in agreement on every detail, but I shall describe here the most naturalistic conception imaginable on Stoic principles.
For convenience I’ll call this naturalistic Stoic God “Theostoa.”
Theostoa is composed of a superfine material called pneuma, which is indestructible, invisible, and indivisible but elastic, which permeates the entire universe, like gravity or dark matter. So this God is the same size as the universe and located in every part of it, and thus “naturally” omnipresent, and because of his material composition he is “naturally” invincible and immortal. His pneumatic body interacts physically with all other matter and space, like a gigantic machine, and thereby produces all physical laws and effects, and this conversely operates as God’s sensory apparatus. Since he is in contact with every piece of the universe, he is “naturally” omniscient and “naturally” omnipotent (obviously both in a certain qualified sense). This pneuma also physically stores and generates the thoughts and memories and ideas of God, and thus serves as his brain.
If Theostoa’s entire mind (every thought, every memory, etc.) is entirely reducible to a system of nonmental pneumatic particles interacting together (if no single component acts with purpose or intention), and Theostoa’s ability to perceive and affect the universe is entirely reducible to a system of nonmental (nonintentional) interactions between these pnuematic particles and everything else, then Theostoa is not a supernatural God. But if any part of Theostoa’s mind or activity is irreducibly mental, if it has a purpose or intention that cannot be reduced to anything else, then despite everything else, he is still supernatural. I might then call him Supertheostoa.
But though entirely natural, the existence of Theostoa would still not be compatible with naturalism unless Theostoa’s origin was also completely reducible to natural causes. If Theostoa evolved through some nonmental cosmological process, entirely without intelligent design or any intentional causation at all—or was intelligently engineered by entirely natural beings—then Theostoa would be compatible with naturalism. In fact, we can vaguely imagine the possibility of mankind technologically creating a deity somewhat like this at some point in our distant future. On the other hand, if Theostoa had no origin but existed eternally, fully-formed, the issue would no longer be his temporal origin, but his ontological foundation, i.e. why he exists. This, too, could have a natural or a supernatural answer, depending on whether this foundation were fully explicable without appealing to anything irreducibly purposeful about the nature of existence.
Therefore, only an evolved or accidental or naturally inevitable Theostoa would be compatible with naturalism, and this is the only sense in which naturalism could ever include something near to a traditional God. Of course, no one on Earth believes in a God like this, and for good reason: there is no evidence of it, and it’s highly implausible. So we have no reason to believe it. But if he did exist, we could (in principle) demonstrate his existence scientifically in the same way we can demonstrate the existence of any other embodied person: we could develop instruments capable of detecting, documenting, and measuring the existence and properties of his pneuma, and then use these instruments to communicate with his mind, learning things about him in the exact same way we learn things about people, through sciences like psychology and biodynamics. And then of course we could observe him enacting his powers and document and measure them, just like with my being a Jedi as mentioned earlier.
The rival philosophy of Epicureanism offers another example. In Epicurean theology, there were many gods, but all were naturally evolved aliens of naturally superior substance and abilities, who resided far away from Earth without any concern for us. We only know they exist because very fine atoms coursing through the universe bounce off their bodies, fly through space in the same pattern that they struck, and collide with our brains, causing us to “see” them in our dreams and sometimes in waking visions. Like Theostoa, these gods have no supernatural cause, no supernatural powers, and no supernatural properties. Their origin is a series of unguided, unintelligent, mechanical collisions of atoms. Their composition is a mindless substance, just atoms in space. Even their ability to appear to us in dreams and visions is entirely explained by the causal interactions of a mindless mechanism (all its parts individually without purpose or intention), just atoms bouncing around.
Obviously, these gods are not supernatural. They are just very odd, very lucky extraterrestrials. But notice how they are very different from what most people mean by “gods,” so much so that most people today would not even call them gods. Nor would any Christian acknowledge Theostoa as a proper God. Hence there is a clear difference here between a “natural” god and a properly supernatural god. That difference is meaningful, metaphysical, and substantial.
Demons, Angels, Faeries, and Ghosts, Oh My!
The same things could be said of demons and angels and faeries, for example. They could be just like Epicurean gods, maybe even living in alternate spatial dimensions and using natural physics to travel to and from (thus “Heaven,” “Hell,” and “Faerieland” in naturalistic terms), in which case they would be entirely natural beings. Or they could have some irreducibly mental property or power (some irreducibly intentional power: like the ability to transport from one dimension to another by a mere act of will), which would make them supernatural. And even if they were entirely natural, if they had a supernatural origin (e.g. “God willed them into existence” rather than “they evolved by intentionless processes”), then naturalism would still be false.
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Note again how this differs from the epistemological question. If you dink around with a freaky puzzle box and Pinhead steps out of your wall and you beat the shit out of him and haul ass out of there, you probably won’t have any reason to doubt you just beat the shit out of a demon. The characters in Hellraiser had plenty of evidence they were involved with demons. But were these just twisted, interdimensional aliens—or real supernatural demons? That’s another question altogether. But regardless of whether you can know the difference, there is still a difference.
Likewise, if ghosts exist, they could be explained supernaturally, or by some Epicureanesque physics. Since ghosts are usually regarded as human souls divested of their mortal bodies, if these ghosts did exist and were supernaturally created or composed, then this would mean even humans are supernatural beings. Our flesh-and-blood bodies would not be supernatural, but our souls would be, possessed of irreducible intentionality and directly (hence magically) controlling our bodies.
Which brings us to our next category…
Supernatural Substances
A supernatural substance is any substance (or any definable point or volume of space) imbued with mental properties or powers. For example, is our “mind” the product of a brain or a soul? If the mind is entirely caused by a mindless mechanism like the brain, which is just a system of mindless cells causally interacting with each other, then our mind is just a brain, which is a natural substance, since no part of it is irreducibly mental (because each part, by itself, is devoid of purpose or intention). The brain only produces mental properties as a causal consequence of a system of interacting nonmental parts (hence The Mind Is a Process Not an Object). But if our mind could depart our brain, and survive and think without any material to sustain it, then just like a disembodied God, our mind would be supernatural, since it would then be irreducibly mental (meaning no intentionless parts cause its intentionalities; it is just pure intentionality).
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But even if our soul was a substance, it could still be a supernatural substance. Most Christians, Jews, and pagans in antiquity understood the human soul as a body composed of pneuma, an ultra-fine, indestructible substance, which inhabits (and controls) our body of flesh until we die, and then leaves, when it physically flies up to heaven, or descends into hell, or rests inside the corpse until the resurrection, or hovers around the graveyard, or whatever. In some accounts, this soul-body departs the corpse-body and takes on a shape more like a ball of light, though still bearing a vague stamp of a person’s physical features, but all invisible to ordinary people. In our terms, we could say soul-bodies radiate and reflect light only in frequencies, or only of a sort, that normal human eyes can’t detect.
Suppose this were true, and we found a way to detect these soul-bodies with instruments and track them as they left the corpse, even ascertaining their physical properties, like their mass and volume and elasticity and so on. If these soul-bodies retained mental function through some naturalistic mechanism, so that all mental powers and properties were still completely reducible to the mindless interaction of particles (like another brain made of soul-stuff, comprising, let’s say, a system of mutually interacting particles of dark matter), then as strange as this soul-body would be, it would be a natural body. It might yet have a supernatural origin, but that’s a separate question. The body itself, the substance, would not be supernatural.
However, if this soul-body turned out to have no relevant sub-structure, if in fact it simply carried a person’s “mind” with all its functions and powers and properties, all as an irreducible “property” of that soul-body, and not as the product of any system of interacting parts within it, then this soul-body would be a supernatural substance. What distinguishes this supernatural soul-body from a natural soul-body is the same thing that distinguishes mind-brain physicalism from traditional notions of a soul: just as mind-brain physicalism entails that all mental powers and properties are fully caused by a functioning collection of neurons called a brain (which in turn reduce to being purely mechanical collections of purposeless atoms), so a natural soul-body would entail that all mental powers and properties are fully caused by an analogously-organized soul-brain made of ethereal substances that can float free of the flesh-and-blood brain. But in a supernatural soul, there are no interacting parts that fully explain how the soul produces mental powers and properties—it’s intentions and choices. It simply possesses them, as innate properties of the substance. That would make it supernatural.
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We can imagine other supernatural substances. A typical example would be a magic love potion. A drink that causes someone to fall in love could be a natural substance, if the potion contained chemicals that got into the blood, and from there into the brain, and were of just the right construction as to have all the right causal effects in all the right places there. In other words, it could, for example, be an incredibly advanced nanorobotic saline solution designed by clever futuristic brain scientists. But if the love potion contained no such chemicals, but was simply imbued with the property of “causing love” and had this effect directly, by possessing no other structure or properties except that innate power, then the potion would be a supernatural substance.
This is because “the idea” of love is a mental property (it is something that has to be intentionally grasped somehow), which in this case would not be reducible to any nonmental system. That a potion would just “know” it was in a human body and “know” where their brain was and “know” precisely how to affect and reorganize that brain so as to cause the person to fall in love (much less with a specific person), is all impossible without a causal mechanism. So if the causal mechanism in the potion consists solely of the mental property of just “knowing” all these things and then directly causing them on contact, with no underlying or intervening mechanism, we’re talking about a supernatural potion. Because now we have irreducibly purpose-directed activity.
Surely you can see by now that metaphysically there is a huge difference between a natural substance (whether a soul or a love potion) and a supernatural one. That difference derives from whether an irreducible mental property or power (an irreducible guiding purpose or intention) is possessed by that substance, or whether, instead, everything that substance does (mental or not) is entirely the product of nonmental mechanisms operating in a causal system, no individual piece of which has any purpose or intention. This still leaves open the epistemological question of how we could tell the difference between a natural soul and a supernatural one, or between a natural love potion and a supernatural one. But already you may be starting to see how that might be done. Certainly, you will understand now what it is you need to look for to find out. Which is how words should be defined: in such a way as to entail what it would take to verify or falsify the existence of what they refer to.
Supernatural Powers or Properties
Supernatural beings and substances are basically just beings and substances with supernatural powers or properties. However, we could make a further distinction between an ordinary substance that is imbued with a supernatural property, and a substance that always has a supernatural property by its very nature. The latter would be a proper case of a supernatural substance, while the former would be a substance that can have a supernatural property added to it and taken away. For example, temporarily imbuing someone with the supernatural power of flight or giving a broom the supernatural power to chase down Jehovah’s Witnesses and harass them until sunset.
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A popular example is the Ark of the Covenant. There is nothing inherently supernatural about its construction or composition. It’s made of ordinary wood and gold, in an ordinary way. But it was then imbued by the will of God with supernatural powers: it inflicts boils and mice upon anyone who steals it, instantly kills anyone who touches it, dries up or burns away any obstacles to those who carry it, gives advice to those who consult it, and various other things, generally nasty.
For all these powers to be natural, they would have to be fully caused by some mechanism. Some machine, some interacting system of nonmental parts, would have to be able to detect and calculate when it’s touching a person or facing an obstacle or in the hands of a thief or being asked a question, and then activate its powers appropriately. Then some other mechanism would have to be able to cause mice to reproduce or boils to appear on human skin or rivers to dry up or brambles to burn away or snakes to die, and so on. But no such machine would be needed if these powers were supernatural. We can certainly imagine a super-advanced technology that could accomplish all this in a compact portable form that would look deceptively like an ordinary Ark, but it would still have all that internal structure (computers, sensory systems, particle emitters, etc.), which would in principle be detectable. So we know what to look for if we want to know whether an Ark’s powers are supernatural or not.
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This remains true even if all these powers were effected from, say, a spaceship in orbit, and only made to appear as though they were coming from the Ark. Even then, all the same technology would exist and could in principle be found—as happened, for instance, when the crew of Picard’s Enterprise discovered how Ardra was pretending to be Satan with supernatural powers. If she needed no spaceship and thus no mechanism or technology to work her miracles, then her powers would have been supernatural. Thus Clarke’s Third Law (“any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”) is only, at best, an epistemological principle, not a metaphysical one. Metaphysically, magic and technology are very definitely always distinguishable.
Thus if the Ark of the Covenant had no internal structure at all, just ordinary wood and gold arranged as the bible describes, yet could do all these things on its own, actually knowing when and how, then these would be supernatural powers. For then there would be something fundamentally and irreducibly mental about its ability to know when to perform certain miracles (like knowing when it was stolen and who the thieves were), and to know what miracles to perform, and where. So, too, for its ability to cause intelligent effects without any underlying mechanism. Like a love potion, for the Ark to “cause death” to anyone who touches it, the Ark would have to be imbued with the idea of death, and the idea of a person and of touching and of causing and so on. If these concepts are not realized by an underlying mechanism in which no single part knows anything about death or persons and so on, then these concepts can only be realized supernaturally. In other words, they would have to be irreducibly innate to the object.
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Another way to convey this distinction is to contrast the underlying metaphysics implied in Forbidden Planet and Harry Potter. In Harry Potter’s world, a wizard speaks a word and something happens. A single word causes a wand to generate light, another word causes objects to move wherever the wand points, and so on. Suppose this really happened. There is no doubt we could document the hell out of it scientifically and thus confirm beyond any reasonable doubt that the effect exists. That’s why in Harry Potter’s world entire agencies are vexed with the task of trying to prevent this evidence from getting to the public (like, say, photographs of flying cars over London). So we can scientifically test for its existence. But would the phenomenon be natural or supernatural? That depends on what really is happening.
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In the film Forbidden Planet (and similarly in other books and movies since) whatever a man dreamed, happened. Of course, this meant his nightmares caused monsters to appear and ravage and kill. It was subsequently discovered that the entire planet had been hollowed out by an ultra-advanced alien civilization and filled with a gigantic machine that used futuristic technologies to scan his mind and then mechanically generate (with particle beams and so forth) what his mind was thinking. The effects were therefore entirely natural. But in the Harry Potter world, there is no gigantic machine inside the earth scanning the air for spoken words and sending out particle beams to construct what is requested. There is no comparable or analogous mechanism behind what happens at all. The universe itself simply responds to spoken words. Existence itself is irreducibly intentional.
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In a similar fashion, in the novel Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell (now a miniseries), the rocks and trees and winds respond to verbal commands, despite having no brains or ears or nervous systems, or anything structurally analogous to these. Therefore, magic in the Harry Potter and Jonathan Strange universes is genuinely supernatural. It relies on irreducibly mental powers and properties of the universe. Words directly cause what they request, without any mindless mechanism connecting the spoken word to the realized effect. Such a universe would have to be fundamentally supernatural, because it would be fundamentally mental to some extent—meaning, fundamentally intentional, producing purposeful motion without mechanism.
Similarly, the Force in the Star Wars universe would be supernatural, unless it was entirely caused by nonmental mechanisms of some kind (whether natural or technological), which mediate between what one willed and its effect. Likewise, an innate force of love in the universe would be supernatural, if it actually had causal effects and was not solely the product of a nonmental mechanism like a brain. For example, if (unmediated by any causal system) the mere act of loving someone directly healed their wounds or illnesses, or the amount of love in a community caused crops to grow, or the power of love in the cosmos caused cruel animals to go sterile and kind animals fertile, so evolution proceeded according to survival of the kindest instead of merely the strongest. And so on. You get the picture. In every case, the question is, does purposeful action just arise, or is it caused by systems of unpurposeful events, such that purpose emerges from the system, rather than manifesting without it. If it emerges from a system, it’s naturalism. If it manifests without it, it’s supernatural
Supernatural Effects
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Last but not least are supernatural effects. Anything that is the effect of a supernatural cause is a supernatural effect, even if the effect itself is not supernatural. Thus, in the Belgariad when Garion created a new species of flower by simply willing it into existence. The flower itself was entirely natural, but its existence was a supernatural effect. Indeed, given everything Garion observed in the Belgariad saga, he would have no reasonable doubt that naturalism was false and that the universe contained supernatural powers. Even his wife Ce’Nedra could talk to trees and make them move. If these trees had no brains or muscles or nervous systems, or anything causally analogous, then trees in Garion’s world must also have supernatural powers. So when these trees supernaturally bend their limbs, though a bent tree limb in and of itself is not supernatural, this particular bending would be a supernatural effect.
The same distinction can be made between the effects of Harry Potter magic and the phenomena of the Forbidden Planet.
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So I shall end my examples with the mother of all purportedly supernatural effects: the claim that Jesus was raised from the dead. Naturalism, if true, does not entail that Jesus did not rise from the dead. Aliens, for example, using advanced but perfectly natural technology could have done it, like Gort in The Day the Earth Stood Still. Heck, we could do it now, with a defib kit and modern drugs (and I’ve said this before: see The Event is Not Proportionate to the Theory, part of my old Secular Web article Why I Don’t Buy the Resurrection Story; and more recently in Christianity Is a Conspiracy Theory).
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If you accept the probable truth of naturalism, this only leads to ruling out supernatural causes of resurrections, not resurrections themselves. Hence in The Empty Tomb I argued that the inference to naturalism only supports arguments against a supernatural resurrection (p. 370, referenced on pp. 196-97, 364). Moreover, not only are natural resurrections possible (thus an inference to naturalism is not alone sufficient to warrant disbelieving in the resurrection of Jesus), it is also possible to have enough evidence of a supernatural resurrection to actually refute naturalism (see Daniel Bonevac’s Bayesian Argument for Miracles).
So, applying to this all I’ve surveyed above, it follows that if “God” were actually an organism like Theostoa, entirely produced by the interaction of mindless building blocks much like we are, and if he needed chemicals or machines of any sort to raise Jesus from the dead, then he is not a god in any traditionally accepted sense, and certainly not any kind of supernatural being. And even if this being retained some supernatural properties (if he was a faerie, say, or a wizard), but still needed natural mechanisms to raise Jesus, then the resurrection would still not be supernatural even if it occurred. Therefore, when I say naturalism rules out supernatural explanations of what happened in Jerusalem two thousand years ago, I am obviously not including mechanical pseudo-gods. Such entities would fall closer to the “aliens did it” category of explanations, which naturalism does not address, nor does it need to. Good old fashioned inductive logic already does away with them.
Ultimately, since The Empty Tomb was not written to address such fringe hypotheses (after all, Christian apologists are not claiming aliens or a mechanical God raised Jesus), you shouldn’t expect a chapter or even a paragraph in The Empty Tomb debunking them. This would be as pointless as devoting even so much as a sentence to debunking the theory that Simon Magus supernaturally raised Jesus by casting a spell. Obviously, when “resurrection” is the theory we are responding to, everyone knows we’re not talking about aliens, mecha-gods, or spellcasting, but an immaterial God directly willing a man back to life. And that is most definitely a supernatural claim.
Is the Supernatural Knowable?
Clearly there is a metaphysical difference between the natural and the supernatural, and it tracks the reducibility of phenomena to the nonmental—that which lacks purpose or intention. This must not be mistaken as requiring any particular form of physicalism or reductionism. Naturalism does entail causal physicalism and reductionism, but only in the very broadest sense of these terms (see what I say about this in Sense and Goodness without God, pp. 130-34, with pp. 143-44 & 224-25). But whatever the essential metaphysics of naturalism and supernaturalism may be, the epistemological question remains: even supposing the supernatural is possible, as something metaphysically distinct from the natural, does this distinction entail that the supernatural is untestable and therefore unknowable?
I don’t see how. There is nothing inherent in either my definition of the supernatural or in the definition of scientific method (see Sense and Goodness, pp. 214-26) that leads to any such entailment. And all of the examples I have given are clearly capable of scientific test and empirical demonstration. The claim that supernatural hypotheses can never be verified or falsified, are untestable, and therefore unknowable, is therefore not tenable. With sufficient evidence I am certain any reasonable scientist would be persuaded to believe any of the supernatural scenarios I have described above. In fact, with sufficient standards and documentation I am certain I could get them into any peer reviewed scientific journal.
Hence I reject radical methodological naturalism, which holds that science can “only” investigate natural phenomena. Nonsense. Science would have no special problem investigating the supernatural. If there were any. Hence I do embrace pragmatic methodological naturalism, which holds that supernatural phenomena have been shown to be so scarce (in fact, as far as we can tell, non-existent), and therefore so improbable, that it is a waste of time and money to investigate supernatural hypotheses, or any uncorroborated paranormal claims (because Naturalism Is Not an Axiom of the Sciences but a Conclusion of Them). Science should only investigate the paranormal when there is sufficient reason to believe there is really something that needs explaining, and even then should only bother testing natural explanations first. This is a pragmatic position, not an epistemological one. If someone wants to spend his own time and money testing supernatural hypotheses and claims, then all the power to them. If they exist, they should be able to find them, and confirm them scientifically. Good luck.
The objection I usually hear is that though science could prove, for example, the existence and efficacy of Harry Potter magic, and even analyze in scientific detail its properties and limitations, science can never really establish that there wasn’t some natural explanation underlying it all. For instance, there could be a gigantic machine inside the earth making it all happen with particle beams, and we just haven’t found it yet, nor detected any of its scanning or constructing beams or anything else. But I can say exactly the same in reverse: no matter how much evidence we get that aerodynamics causes airplanes to fly, there could still be supernatural sky faeries keeping planes in the air and we’ve just not detected this yet. Hence this “could be” argument is an unreasonable demand that no scientist would accept in any other context. Obviously we can always not know something that would change our conclusions. Science actually embraces this fact, and gets past it, by concluding that we can arrive at confident conclusions anyway, so long as we remain open to new evidence that could prove us wrong. Scientists rightly accept that there comes a point when it is unreasonable to hold out for alternative hypotheses, until new evidence arrives.
In the case of Harry Potter’s magic, for example, it would be absurdly unreasonable to claim there is an undiscovered machine behind it all. Yes, there could be. But we would have no reason to believe there was. When we’ve conducted a detailed investigation and all we have left that actually carries substantial predictive success is a supernatural hypothesis, then science has established the latter as well as it could any other theory. Science can therefore prove the supernatural. It just needs damned good evidence. And yet like all science, even this conclusion would be revisable, if we discovered new evidence of a natural cause after all. But it would be irrational to hold out for that evidence. This would be as irrational as holding out for evidence of sky faeries rather than accepting the conclusions of aerodynamics.
By analogy, it is always possible that there is a gigantic machine inside the earth that is changing the course of photons approaching the earth, fooling us into thinking the earth revolves around the sun. In this way the heliocentric theory could actually be false. But no scientist would claim we have not proven heliocentrism merely because of possibilities like this. Yet if a scientist will not tolerate such objections to heliocentrism, he cannot tolerate methodologically identical objections to any supernatural hypothesis that is as well established as heliocentrism. Therefore, this is not a valid objection to allowing supernatural hypotheses into science. (This actually is a variant form of Cartesian Demon, which will always be too improbable to warrant believing, as explained in We Are Probably Not in a Simulation).
If the supernatural existed, we should be able to accumulate evidence in support of it just as we have accumulated evidence of heliocentrism. Indeed, if the universe were as blatantly and pervasively supernatural as we have found it, instead, to be natural, then naturalism would be as untenable as supernaturalism is now. Supernaturalism would then be the default worldview. But even if the evidence was not that overwhelming, just as for heliocentrism, at some point the evidence could pile so high that you will have to admit a supernatural explanation is the best explanation there is. In fact, eventually the evidence could stack so high you will concede it’s the best explanation by far. It would not then be reasonable to say “possibly, therefore probably” something else is going on. This is as irrational for a creationist to maintain against evidence for evolution as for a naturalist to maintain against the same quality of evidence for supernatural creation. If there were such evidence. It just so happens there isn’t. But no one should confuse an actual lack of evidence for the theoretical impossibility of having it.
Thus, for example, if Biblical Creationism were true, by now we should have accumulated tons of scientific evidence that the entire universe is less than six light days across and the earth is at the center of it, all fossils and rocks radiologically and stratigraphically date no older than six thousand years, the fossil and DNA records confirm that all species appeared simultaneously six thousand years ago and have not substantially changed since, and much more. For more examples of how the evidence should have turned out if creationism were true, see the last chapter of my book Why I Am Not a Christian and my more recent article Ten Ways the World Would Be Different If God Existed. But alas, the data didn’t come out that way. But if it had, supernaturalism would have been as scientifically established as naturalism is now.
Conclusion
Many naturalists have a poor conception of how to define naturalism or the supernatural. They might know it when they see it, but when they try to capture in words what exactly it is they are talking about, they often come up with a badly worded travesty. I’ve done what I can to remedy this by developing and testing a precise definition of naturalism and the supernatural, providing a sensible and usable natural-supernatural distinction, which also happens to align quite well with how people use these words in practice (as I believe our terminology ought to do as much as possible). And I have surveyed numerous hypothetical examples of how my proposed distinctions can be applied.
In defining the words “natural” and “supernatural” as I do, I differ from the legal and science community, as exemplified most recently in the Kitzmiller v. Dover case. There, Judge Jones was bound by legal principles to follow case precedent and the professional standards of established industries. Following the 1982 McLean decision he found the courts had defined “supernatural intervention” as intervention that “cannot be explained by natural causes, or be proven through empirical investigation, and is therefore neither testable nor falsifiable.” Jones further cited the official statement of the National Academy of Sciences, which declares “claims of supernatural intervention…are not science because they are not testable by the methods of science.” Thus we see the same trend in both the legal and scientific communities, to veer away from metaphysical distinctions and in favor of purely epistemological ones.
But as my articles, and now examples, have shown, this does not track the real-world use of the word at all. Which can tend to no good. Yet this error continues to be made (example, example, example; even Wikipedia is confused). Scientists are ignoring philosophy. To their peril. Because the current United States Supreme Court will see right through this error if given a chance. Science needs to get ahead of that. It is more full-proof to say that creationism isn’t science not because it is supernatural or because the supernatural just “is” untestable, but simply because creationism never actually tests anything. Creationists can get a seat at the table if they ever actually do any real science—and actually discover anything pertinent, rather than giving us mere rhetoric and handwaving, which is all they have given us so far.
The folly of creationism is not that its claims are untestable. The folly of creationism is that its claims have all been empirically falsified. It is pseudoscience for the same simple reason as phlogiston, a flat Earth, or Aristotle’s theory of elements. Of course this might be because the supernatural is logically impossible (see The God Impossible) or absurdly improbable (see The Argument from Specified Complexity against Supernaturalism), but even these conclusions would be overthrown with extraordinary enough evidence. But the evidence offered us isn’t even ordinary (see That Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence). And though I understand everyone’s reasons for wanting to keep metaphysics out of it (since it’s a politically charged can of cultural worms), I disagree with their attempted solution of coopting and changing the meaning of a popular word. That’s the wrong way to go about it. Hence I believe a paradigm shift is needed regarding how the word “supernatural” is defined and applied. Both law and science must get back in line with ordinary English and real-world language, ideas, and concerns.
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This discussion continued on my old blog in Defining Naturalism and Defining Naturalism II, and on my new blog in Defining the Supernatural vs. Logical Positivism and Theism, Naturalism, and Explanatory Power.
The crucifixion of Jesus narrative is just a metaphor for the crucifixion of the ego on some level! When you “crucify” the ego, it “resurrects” in a new form! A form that recognizes that it is not the center of the fkn universe! If you know, you know! That’s called consciousness! It requires the involvement of the whole self! Not just the ego! Which means it requires practices, not just information! By the way! Don’t you think it’s important to distinguish very clearly between the physical and the metaphysical? I keep watching physics videos and hearing people talking about “information”! Isn’t “information” a metaphysical rather than physical category? Isn’t that the kind of thing that just creates confusion? In sort of the same way you’re talking about with the natural and supernatural as “metaphysical” rather than “epistemological” categories? (or am I mistaken?)
“The crucifixion of Jesus narrative is just a metaphor for the crucifixion of the ego on some level!”
This is not how the vast majority of believers (or unbelievers) view the resurrection. It is proposed and reviewed as a historical event. It is highly unlikely the original gospel authors were writing it specifically as a narrative device. One can choose to read such a metaphor into the story, but that’s just the reader reifying their own beliefs.
“When you “crucify” the ego, it “resurrects” in a new form! A form that recognizes that it is not the center of the fkn universe! If you know, you know!”
Well then you can’t be talking about the resurrection of Jesus, who transforms from a human into monotheistic God (literally the center/sustainer/creator of the universe).
“That’s called consciousness! It requires the involvement of the whole self! Not just the ego! Which means it requires practices, not just information!”
I’m not sure what you mean by practices here. Consciousness does require multiple parts of a brain to be working in some concerted way. However, it does not require ALL parts of the brain to be working toward consciousness. Think of your brain stem keeping your lungs breathing and heart pumping.
“By the way! Don’t you think it’s important to distinguish very clearly between the physical and the metaphysical?
That’s a good distinction to make. I think they are different categories. Metaphysics describes the base form of our reality philosophically. Physical is the referent to something with material dimensions. I’m sure Dr. Carrier has more robust distinction, but I think that hits general use.
“I keep watching physics videos and hearing people talking about “information”! Isn’t “information” a metaphysical rather than physical category? Isn’t that the kind of thing that just creates confusion? In sort of the same way you’re talking about with the natural and supernatural as “metaphysical” rather than “epistemological” categories? (or am I mistaken?)”
How do you understand information? Information doesn’t strike me as metaphysical. Indeed, it only seems to make sense (in my world view, obviously) as some interaction with a material world. A deer leaves an imprint of it’s hooves in the mud, providing information to a hunter tracking it. All of this is material, from the deer, to the mud, to the visual cortex of the hunter, to the pattern processing of what a particular direction and depth of the hoof mean for likely movements. None of that really requires the base of reality to be any one way, nor does information need to be the thing everything else is made out of.
Per Keith, that you “can” completely reinterpret a myth to suit some message is not evidence it was ever intended that way. To ascertain what the original intent was, you have to look at all the relevant contextual and causal evidence (a task for historians, with skills emphasized in literary studies).
And generally, reinterpretation is a bad strategy anyway, because the myth will never fit the new interpretation, requiring an elaborate process of ignoring and altering all the information in the original myth. And it is inefficient to do all that work. If you want a new myth, just write a new myth, for the purpose. Then you won’t be stuck with all the elaborate baggage of the old one, and you won’t be supporting excessive reverence for an obsolete or toxic mythology.
OMG, Dr. Carrier! We talked about this in April! THE myth (the so called “monomyth” or “hero’s journey”) is simply for the ego to plumb the depths of the subconscious and return to the surface in a new form! If you pay attention, you can see that you’ve had opportunities to do this in your own life! Maybe (lol) there was a time when you centered the ego, you sought external validation, and you projected your insecurities onto the other! Maybe there was a time when you were called out for this! Maybe there was a time you recognized the “judgment” as true, but maybe there was a time when you didn’t! Maybe there was a time when you were presented with the opportunity to allow your ego to die! How many times did you let it die? How many times did you refuse? How many times did you rationalize the actions of your ego? How many times did you “detach” yourself from your ego and look at your own ego from a different perspective? Just think about it!
Keith: the deer print is only “information” in the mind of the hunter. It has to be “interpreted.” The hunter has to “interpret” it in the light of “purposes” for which he set out! Obviously purpose is metaphysical (even though it comes from the physical) and interpretation involves abstraction, which is also metaphysical.
None of that is historically correct (per Keith’s and my other comments).
Nor is it analytically correct.
Escape from a self-centered mindset is not “consciousness” (self-centered people are also conscious). You can instead call it higher or more or broader or better consciousness (or something), but what distinguishes those two states of mind is not mere consciousness itself.
The crucifixion-resurrection metaphor for this process is a bit weak and misleading and thus not very useful psychotherapeutically or psychoanalytically.
And though habituation is indeed as important as mere information precisely because most of the human mind is not analytically rational, that doesn’t have any relevance to the present article. What is true and what it takes to persuade someone to believe it is true are completely different subjects of discourse.
Finally, the word metaphysics means “after physics” and was coined by Aristotle or his editors to refer to what you do to fill gaps left by empirical physics. Metaphysics therefore always still refers to physics; it is simply a more speculative or less certain physics. And bad metaphysics is meta-physics that is not following the laws of probability or the actual established findings of physics. Good metaphysics is the reverse (see You Know They’re a [Good|Lousy] Philosopher If…).
Information is a physical, not a metaphysical, category because the science of information is well developed empirically and has well established that information cannot even exist (much less be transmitted or comprehended, i.e. have any causal effect on the world at all) without existing in physical form (even potential information must exist physically, in the medium that can be shaped or assembled into actual information). Information is just a new word for what Aristotle called formal causes: the shape or pattern or arrangement of a substance that informationally distinguishes it from any other.
So the only confusion here is yours, inexplicably confusing a distinction between the metaphysical (what a thing is) and epistemological (how do we know what thing it is) with a metaphysical distinction between physical (realized in a substance, which on scientific naturalism means space-time or matter-energy in space-time) and nonphysical (not realized in a substance, and on scientific naturalism, no such things exist), and a completely different distinction, between the physical (as the substance composing a thing) and nonphysical (as the structure of the thing, realized in its substance), i.e. abstractions, concepts, patterns, etc.
Whether abstractions, concepts, patterns, etc. are only ever realized physically is a metaphysical question. But it is not in contradistinction to their only ever being realized physically; that is, rather, one possible metaphysics of them (and on physicalism, is the metaphysics of them).
In scientific terms, you never in your life have ever received any information except physically, and you have never comprehended any information except physically, and you have thus never ever been changed by information except physically.
Your mind is reductively nothing but a physical process of a physical organ (the brain), its comprehensions are nothing but physical computations (with an informational input and output), and information is only ever input physically (sensory signals, usually electrical, linked from a sensory cell to a perceiving neural network) and only ever output physically: your perceptions and comprehensions are physically realized in synaptic activity in the brain, without which those perceptions and comprehensions would not exist and you would not experience them, and nothing else is needed for that to be the case (so there is no role for anything metaphysically nonphysical to play in all this; hence such things don’t exist, only metaphysically physical things do).
I appreciate the distinction, and I particularly enjoyed the book examples.
Reading through your definitions, I wonder whether new-age fraudsters (for lack of a better term) actually try to improve the appeal of their “supernatural” cures by depicting them as “natural” ones.
If I claim that I can heal someone by just thinking about them (or asking a purely mental god to do it for me), this clearly conveys to my audience that this is a supernatural ability or effect, which in turn might trigger some form of scepticism by the part of the audience that believe they are rational thinkers.
If I, on the other hand, sell my audience e.g a physical object (e.g. a “quantum” stone), that is supposed to do the trick by means of some causal mechanisms, that is simply ignored by “mainstream science”, I both appeal to the ego of my customers (who might believe they are smarter and more open-minded) and can increase my margin, since it is easier to sell the same overpriced item over and over again (to e.g. “re-clean” my water and such) than selling e.g. one book where I train how to do magic tricks.
Pack it up buddy, ed feser debunked you years ago! https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2018/02/carrier-on-five-proofs.html?m=1
Oh dear. They didn’t tell you?
Next time, maybe search my blog before commenting?
You know, as in, rather than assume I didn’t already completely destroy the very inept reply you just linked to, try checking first.
P.S. Unless you are being sarcastic. In which case, please flag it as sarcasm. Text has no affect so it is impossible to tell if you are being serious.
On whether “paranormal” is used consistently that way in public, I’m of two minds. I think people consciously do but subconsciously don’t.
There’s the classic observation that a UFO is just an unidentified flying objects, so if someone asks you if you believe in UFOs you can easily say “Yes, I think there are flying objects that are not at present identified”. The observation works even though it feels pedantic because it’s a reminder that everyone is leaping to the assumption that these are alien vehicles (or, for the Christian fundamentalist, demons sometimes, depending on the internal consistency of their paranormal worldview – plenty of fundies and even YECs also somehow believe in UFOs and holograms that don’t even seem all that demonic).
In practice, people who tend to accept the paranormal in general do not have any naturalistic or probabilistic resistance to the supernatural. There are scant few people who will really insist that they are okay with believing in UFOS, UN black helicopters, cloning, Bigfoot, etc. but not angels, demons, or ghosts. There’s a reason this stuff is always in the same tabloids and in the same sources.
But I do agree that, if people really thought about the distinction, most people would agree that a UFO is paranormal but not supernatural. I just think people use both largely interchangably because it’s all the same sloppy reasoning.